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[Goat Gosselin]

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dont get me wrong, i whole heartedly believe that Fedor will not just beat Timmy, his will make him into minced meat. i do not think Timmy is a very good fighter dispite the fact that he has held the belt. i think he has never beaten the top crust of the heavy wieght div. seems to get a belt chance when its vacated or there is only 3 or 4 other guys in the div and none of which are very good. look at Rico for example, he had done almost nothing of record since he won the heavy wieght strap

[effjay]

Wow. I think Soze's love for Fedor is only matched by his Hatred of Frank Mir. . .Jesus. . .what would happen if Nog lost and Fedor lost. . .Soze's world cease to exist ?

[Soze]

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i have no hatred for frank mir. i just think he is a piss poor fighter with limited skills who is undeservant of being in the same arena as nogueira. but other then that he seems like a nice enough guy.


as for fedor, yes, i'd let him have his way with me

[Goat Gosselin]

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at the risk of taking a the Soze rath, i think frank mir is 5 times the fighter than Timmy

[Soze]

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mir's whole career is based off of his win against sylvia. well at least until he beat the mma savior-brock lesnar. tim on the other hand has beaten some of the best in the game. although i'm no fan of his i still feel sylvia is one of the best hw's of all time

[Goat Gosselin]

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Loss Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFC 81 - Breaking Point 2/2/2008 3 1:28
Win Brandon Vera Decision (Unanimous) UFC 77 - Hostile Territory 10/20/2007 3 5:00
Loss Randy Couture Decision (Unanimous) UFC 68 - Uprising 3/3/2007 5 5:00
Win Jeff Monson Decision (Unanimous) UFC 65 - Bad Intentions 11/18/2006 5 5:00
Win Andrei Arlovski Decision (Unanimous) UFC 61 - Bitter Rivals 7/8/2006 5 5:00
Win Andrei Arlovski KO (Punch) UFC 59 - Reality Check 4/15/2006 1 2:43
Win Assuerio Silva Decision (Unaminous) UFC - Ultimate Fight Night 3 1/16/2006 3 5:00
Win Tra Telligman KO (Kick) UFC 54 - Boiling Point 8/20/2005 1 4:59
Win Mike Block TKO IFC - Caged Combat 5/21/2005 1 1:26
Loss Andrei Arlovski Submission (Achilles Lock) UFC 51 - Super Saturday 2/5/2005 1 0:47
Win Wes Sims TKO (Punches) SB 38 - SuperBrawl 38 12/12/2004 1 1:32
Loss Frank Mir Technical Submission (Armbar) UFC 48 - Payback 6/19/2004 1 0:50
Win Gan McGee TKO (Punches) UFC 44 - Undisputed 9/26/2003 1 1:54
Win Ricco Rodriguez TKO (Strikes) UFC 41 - Onslaught 2/28/2003 1 3:09
Win Wesley Correira TKO (Corner Stoppage) UFC 39 - The Warriors Return 9/27/2002 2 1:43
Win Jeff Gerlick TKO EC 48 - Extreme Challenge 48 7/27/2002 1 3:17
Win Mike Whitehead TKO (Strikes) SB 24 - Return of the Heavyweights 2 4/27/2002 1 2:38
Win Jason Lambert TKO (Strikes) SB 24 - Return of the Heavyweights 2 4/27/2002 2 4:13
Win Boyd Ballard KO (Knee) SB 24 - Return of the Heavyweights 2 4/27/2002 1 3:21
Win Mike Whitehead TKO SB 24 - Return of the Heavyweights 1 4/26/2002 1 3:46
Win Matt Fremmbling Decision (Unanimous) EC 47 - Extreme Challenge 47 3/16/2002 2 5:00
Win Gino De La Cruz TKO EC 47 - Extreme Challenge 47 3/16/2002 1 0:43
Win Ernest Henderson TKO (Fell out of the Ring) EC 47 - Extreme Challenge 47 3/16/2002 1 0:29
Win Greg Wikan Submission (Choke) EC - Extreme Challenge Trials 11/17/2001 3 2:20
Win Ben Rothwell Decision EC 42 - Extreme Challenge 42 8/24/2001 3 5:00
Win Greg Wikan TKO (Towel) UW - Ultimate Fight Minnesota 6/2/2001 1 5:00
Win Gabe Beauperthy Submission (Choke) GC 3 - Showdown at Soboba 4/7/2001 2 4:16
Win Randy Durant TKO IFC - Battleground 2001 1/19/2001 1 2:05



his first 19 wins i would say that he never fought anyone above a marginal fighter, none in the top 20 at the time, and yes he did beat rico but he was a one fight wonder in my book

[Soze]

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getting too late for me to start debating so let me keep this simple and maybe expand on it tomorrow. ricco was a great fighter, probably the second best hw in the world at the time. he beat arlovski, couture, and nogueira(if you saw the fight you'd realise that nog getting the win was one of the biggest bs decisions ever).

[Goat Gosselin]

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i may have glossed over some guys, and rico was on a roll going into that fight but dropped off the radar almost after the loss. he did beat andre, and he has seemed to be a hot and cold fighter streaky if u will in his history. the fight he lost to couture he looked like he didnt belong in the fight, and i did see that fight with nog, and anmost have to watch it again if i remember right i will agree with you on the call

[tlock]

Here is a link to the Affliction Banned countdown videos. About 30 mins of footage to help the work day go by...

http://bringingbackthebushwhackers.b...ffliction.html

[effjay]

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Thought this was timely and also brings Ricco back into the picture, as I'm sure most of ya'll heard that he got pretty much dismantled in his boxing match. Sylvia might do alright against some low ranked guys, but top heavy weight boxers would still beat Timmay. Now get them in the Octagon and they're fucked. But in the Ring with no takedowns or grappling? Sorry, you're in their world.