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[ThatHaole]

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So your well reasoned argument is fuck the duly elected because I don't like them and only armed rebellion will solve the issue?

How far from this is "There is only one God and Allah is his name and he wants me to kill people that I or someone else deem to not believe that."

Extremism is ugly in any language and couched in any terms. What happened to I disagree with what you say and how you say it but I will defend your right to say it?

On a seperate note, are we talking a legitimate 70,000 people, or will Faux News fake the broadcasts to inflate the numbers again?

[The Godfather]

Barack Obama, who entered the White House promising all this change, should be hailing Bradley Birkenfeld as a modern-day hero.

He should erect a statue on Wall Street for this former banker for Swiss giant UBS who blew the whistle on the biggest tax-evasion scheme in U.S. history.

Instead of rewarding Birkenfeld, Obama's Justice Department is sending him to prison. He begins serving a 40-month federal sentence Friday for conspiracy and bank fraud.

What about his former bosses and fellow bankers at UBS and thousands of rich American clients who for decades stashed billions of dollars in secret UBS accounts to evade paying federal taxes?

Well, the government let them buy their way out of jail.

UBS pleaded guilty and paid a $780 million fine in February, while thousands of Americans with unreported offshore accounts have been allowed to belatedly disclose them and pay civil penalties.

Only Birkenfeld, the 44-year-old whistleblower, ends up in jail - the No. 1 example of injustice and hypocrisy in the age of Obama.

Who can forget that priceless photo of the President playing golf on Aug. 24 during his Martha's Vineyard summer vacation with Robert Wolf, president of UBS Americas?

Wolf and his employees donated $540,000 to Obama's presidential run. That made UBS the 12th largest source of his campaign funds.

Of all the people in America to choose for a golf partner, Obama chose Wolf.

The outing was only three days after Birkenfeld's harsh sentencing, and less than a week after UBS agreed to turn over the names of 4,450 of its American clients to the Justice Department. That's just a portion of 19,000 American accounts the bank has admitted keeping secret from U.S. tax officials.

So why is Birkenfeld, who gave hundreds of those names to prosecutors, going to jail?

"Without Mr. Birkenfeld ... I doubt ... this massive fraud scheme would have been discovered," Assistant U.S. Attorney Kevin Downing conceded at the Aug. 21 sentencing hearing.

Prosecutors also claimed in that hearing and in a "60 Minutes" interview Sunday night that Birkenfeld withheld information on how he had helped his biggest U.S. client, California billionaire Igor Olenicoff, hide hundreds of millions in assets. So when Birkenfeld flew here from Switzerland in early 2008, they arrested and charged him.

Birkenfeld's lawyer Stephen Kohn denies those allegations. He says the government is sending a terrible signal to future whistleblowers.

Kohn filed a formal complaint yesterday with the U.S. attorney general's office of professional responsibility, claiming the "main allegations used to secure [Birkenfeld's] indictment and imprisonment were not based on accurate or truthful information."

Birkenfeld offered to provide every name he knew of secret account holders at UBS, Kohn said, but he first wanted a formal subpoena because he was then a resident of Switzerland. Under Swiss law it is illegal to disclose client information.

The Justice Department refused to issue the subpoena, so Birkenfeld then went to the IRS, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the U.S. Senate during the summer of 2007 offering the information to them.

The Senate's permanent investigations subcommittee agreed to subpoena him. He gave the committee a detailed deposition on Oct. 11, 2007 about UBS fraud scheme with lots of names, including that of Olenicoff. E-mails Kohn provided back up that claim.

Birkenfeld gave the same information to the IRS and the SEC.

Several weeks later, Olenicoff was indicted. He pleaded guilty and paid a $53 million fine.

Kohn has asked Attorney General Eric Holder for a formal investigation of the actions of Justice Department prosecutors.

Holder has his own UBS headache. Last year, the attorney general recused himself from the case because he once served as a lawyer for the Swiss bank.

The Birkenfeld case has exposed a lot more than hidden bank accounts.

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[DontSnatch]

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this is why the imageof your country is in shambles. The US does a lot of good for the world (of course everything they do is to benefit themselves as well), but the world just hears the saddest and loudest maniacs.



oh wait i forgot "fuck what the rest of the world thinks!! this is our Earth your just living in it!!!"

[troup]

Yeah pred seems like the kind of guy I could be mates with in terms of the tranny fetish shenanigans and all that but then comes across as a bit of a political retard. Each to his own though, we are all going to die from water supplies running out, global warming, nuclear war, some pandemic or a meteorite any day now so who gives a shit!

To stay on topic, what's the deal with calling a grass a whistleblower when rich people are involved?

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Unfortunately we're all products of the media, sometimes I say go fuck yourself to fox news and other times i say go fuck yourself to olberman and ratchet the mad cow.

[Fever]

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Whatever turns your crank, my recently surprisingly more lucid Bahamian brother.

Funny that in all these arguments over what boils down to opinion, a guy like me is really left without representation. To be a middle class, not particularly religious, sole-providing family man and small business owner these days is like an endangered species. The debate over true conservatism stops at my door. I want nothing more than my daughters to be virginal, my earnings to be mine, and to be able to smoke my weed in privacy. Many of the values promoted by all these agendas are at their core agreeable to me; they just take it too far. And it seems as if us middle-of-the-road thinkers are thrown into uncomfortable choices; like accepting politicians of a perceived lesser evil, or groups of representation that you never are really sure of the underlying agendas because of the media manipulation.
The reality is, I wouldn't really trust anyone with the welfare of my children or the operation of my world for an extended period - but that's not really our choice anymore. If it wasn't the government, it would be the employers, or the gangs, etc. We just need to be educated enough to see them coming, and self sufficient enough to defend ourselves from being at their mercy. Taking up arms is for the hopeless, cause someone will always have a bigger hammer; we must out-play them.

/soapbox

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You're awesome!!!!!

[troup]

What he said

[Striker]

Goddamn global warming climate change (sorry, forgot it's winter... it's only global warming during the summer)!

[Predator24]

The Beginning of a Mini Ace Age

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