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[jizzay]

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yes! I was wrong again. 3 bowl wins in a row. 14 straight non conference wins, second to only LSU for most in the nation. Go Cats!!

[Soze]

there needs to be a playoff because teams like utah will always get fucked over. who knows, they may be the best team in the nation this year but there will be no way to know w/o a playoff system. now lets see if the ap votes them #1 so we can have an even bigger clusterfuck...

[jizzay]

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Sat, Aug 30 at Michigan W 25-23
Sat, Sep 6 UNLV W 42-21
Sat, Sep 13 at Utah State W 58-10
Sat, Sep 20 at Air Force W 30-23
Sat, Sep 27 Weber State W 37-21
Thu, Oct 2 Oregon State W 31-28
Sat, Oct 11 at Wyoming W 40-7
Sat, Oct 18 Colorado State W 49-16
Sat, Nov 1 at New Mexico W 13-10
Thu, Nov 6 (11) TCU W 13-10
Sat, Nov 15 at San Diego State W 63-14
Sat, Nov 22 (16) Brigham Young W 48-24

With a powerhouse schedule like this yeah, they should be number one. Barely beat a very bad Michigan team and kept it close four of the other games. Come on, they are a Mountain West school that just happened to play a depleted Bama team with only 2 of 5 offensive lineman playing their normal positions.

[Soze]

yep, they arent in the big 12 or sec so they obviously suck. it's not like they've beaten 15 straight BCS conference schools or have a win over a 9 win oregon St team right after that team just beat the trojans, or have a win over an 11 win tcu team, or have a win over a 10 win Byu team, or dominate a 12 win Alabama team who not too long ago was #1 in the polls in their own backyard. oh wait...



if you can not see utah as one of the best teams in the country you are delusional. as an undefeated team they deserve a shot at the national title plain and simple

[jizzay]

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Compare Utah's record above with the two deserving teams that will be playing for the title:

Florida's

Sat, Aug 30 Hawaii W 56-10 went to bowl
Sat, Sep 6 Miami (FL) W 26-3 went to bowl
Sat, Sep 20 at Tennessee W 30-6
Sat, Sep 27 Mississippi L 30-31 #20 with a BCS win
Sat, Oct 4 at Arkansas W 38-7
Sat, Oct 11 (4) LSU W 51-21 won bowl
Sat, Oct 25 Kentucky W 63-5 won bowl
Sat, Nov 1 at (8) Georgia W 49-10 #16 with bowl win
Sat, Nov 8 at Vanderbilt W 42-14 won bowl
Sat, Nov 15 (24) South Carolina W 56-6 went to bowl
Sat, Nov 22 Citadel W 70-19
Sat, Nov 29 at (23) Florida State W 45-15 won bowl
Sat, Dec 6 (1) Alabama W 31-20 went to BCS bowl

Oklahoma's

Sat, Aug 30 Chattanooga W 57-2
Sat, Sep 6 Cincinnati W 52-26 12 and a bowl win
Sat, Sep 13 at Washington W 55-14
Sat, Sep 27 (24) TCU W 35-10 11 and a bowl win
Sat, Oct 4 at Baylor W 49-17
Sat, Oct 11 (5) Texas L 35-45 3 and BCS bowl
Sat, Oct 18 (16) Kansas W 45-31
Sat, Oct 25 at Kansas State W 58-35
Sat, Nov 1 Nebraska W 62-28 went to bowl
Sat, Nov 8 at Texas A&M W 66-28
Sat, Nov 22 (2) Texas Tech W 65-21 went to BCS bowl
Sat, Nov 29 at (11) Oklahoma St W 61-41 13 and went to bowl
Sat, Dec 6 (19) Missouri W 62-21 25 and a bowl win

Apples and oranges huh? Count the number of bowl teams on either schedule and if you feel like you need to count the number of wins that each opponent ended up with. An undefeated Mountain West team with a light schedule, has no business anywhere near the title game with either of these two schools, or Texas or USC for that matter.

[Soze]

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i have a feeling earlier today you would have had alabama in that list of schools.

anyways..


USC lost to
Oregon State who lost to
UTAH

Oklahoma lost to
Texas who lost to
Texas Tech who lost to
Mississippi who lost to
Alabama who lost to
Utah

Florida lost to
Mississippi who lost to
Alabama who lost to
UTAH

boo-yah!! yeah that's a sorta bs way to look at things but the issue here is playoffs or no playoffs. i have never heard a single valid argument against a playoff system. care to enlighten me?

[jizzay]

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What are you playing? Six Degrees of Utah or trying to make a case for a weaker school to play the Big Boys of Football. Utah is a glorified Division II team that should be playing the teams in the Conference USA or Sunbelt. In fact, D2 has a playoff, let them go there and play.

[Tablefor5]

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There truly isn't a system that is going to make anyone happy!

I was very impressed with Utah last night, I thought they would of been thrown all over!!!

[jizzay]

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I am sure normally they would have had they been healthy and w/o that suspension, Parker never really had the time he usually does.

[BarryMcCockiner]

Let the NCAA control one week of match-ups. The arguments against the playoff hold some merit, as much as it pains me to admit it. The bowl system generates a shit-ton of revenue for cities and teams, but if there's a playoff system, will the fans be able to travel multiple weeks? That's one of the issues the ACC is finding with putting the title game in Florida, fans aren't too keen on travelling to Florida for the championship and then again a month later for a bowl game, it's just too expensive. If they go to a playoff system, how many fans are going to be able to afford to go to multiple games? It's much more difficult than with basketball because you're dealing with so many more fans. I think the basketball final usually draws a little over 40,000. That's a lower tier bowl game. I say let the NCAA have a week, probably between week 1-4 of the season, and tell every team who they're playing. Throw the #1's from the previous year from each BCS conference into a hat with the top 4 teams from the previous year's final BCS ranking who didn't win their conference/aren't already in the group, draw at random, and flip a coin for home field. Under this scenario, you'd have a weekend with match-ups between Virginia Tech, Florida, USC, Oklahoma, Penn State, Cincinatti, Texas, Alabama, Utah and Texas Tech. You'll always have teams that don't belong, you could make an argument for VT, Cinci, Utah and in my opinion TT, but ACC and Big East are BCS conferences, so include them and you can start discounting their teams from the very beginning with some results to back it up. Repeat the process with the #2's from every conference, etc., and you'll get some idea of how conferences stack up against each other. This would likely eliminate the abundance of small-conference schools finishing undefeated as well.