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Doesnt seem far fetched. When I was in school, 8th grade was when the girls became the freaky sluts they were bound to wind up as. At least the freaky slutty ones...8th grades was when they came out and willing as fuck.
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SLF is very territorial and wont let anyone else in without peeing on em to mark his territory or attempting to hump them.
Ok as a parent, I am not thrilled with teen sex. I thankfully won't have a teen for a few years to worry more about.
But, as a female I gotta ask, for you Dad's out there that will beat the shit out of a guy for screwing your WILLING daughter, what's her punishment? Since you do want to punish the guy. Or is it the good old double standard? The girl is innocent no matter what?
Seems to me, if she is willing and in high school especially, what needs to be done is getting her ass on birth control, teaching her to avoid VDs by teaching her to insist on using condoms despite her being on birth control (double protection there since neither is 100%) and also explaining that while doing these things it doesn't mean you condone teen sex.
Because quite frankly, if she's willing, why put all of the blame on the guy? I've been out of school for 13 years and when I was in high school the "cool" thing was for freshmen girls to have a senior boyfriend and give it up to them pretty damn quick. I know my friends and I weren't into that. In fact, for the first 3 years of high school, there wasn't really a guy there I had a crush on. They were basically idiots in my eyes. Plus, I had more to focus on than idiot guys. My senior year was different. I met BC! And even then, I earned a nick name because I was not going to allow what everyone else was doing influence MY decisions about my body.
I am just saying why place all the blame on the guy if the girl is willing. Now if she's coerced, or even worse forced then he deserves a beat down. But, if she's full on willing....think back to you at his age. Would you have turned down a willing girl? I don't know many who could say they would.
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Ummm....hell no but I would expect the dad to be pissed with the knowledge of what I was doing to his daughter though. And yes for me it is the good ol' double standard.
MBC, totally true about the guys not getting the entire blame here. Some of it definately needs to be put on the willing girl. I just think many dads refuse to believe that their "little girls" would ever do something like that...they need to open their eyes.
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SLF is very territorial and wont let anyone else in without peeing on em to mark his territory or attempting to hump them.
I was just curious. My dad wasn't there to care. I am sure if he had been then I'd have had a lot of problems. But, I did have "Dad" in my best friend's Dad and knew how he felt despite him not saying anything. Just not something he'd discuss with me.
I guess as the mother of a son who is being taught to respect females, I know hormones will kick in. My job is to teach him what we value. And definitely to teach respect. I'd like to kid myself and think we'll be able to teach him that teens don't need sex. But, again, hormones....yeah I know better. I just think how I'd feel if my teen son had sex with a teen girl and she was fully willing, knew what she was doing, knew the consequences etc....and an angry father came along and beat the shit out of him. I'd be full on pissed. And pressing charges. Yes, my son did something as a parent I would not want, but we all know teens do things like that. Disciplining him is MY job not some angry father's who thinks his baby girl is innocent. Would you fathers out there like it if I came and beat up that same willing teen girl for "seducing" my son? Or would you then be pretty pissed off?
Don't get me wrong...someone lays a hand on my son at any age I am coming down with serious "Shock & Awe" on their ass. My son needs any disciplining I will handle it or Treasure will. I just think it is the scare factor.
But you do at least see what I am saying. I don't blame fathers for being pissed. That's what fathers do. But using a scare tactic on my kid...not so cool...when you reverse it is it?
As parents we all want what is best for our kid. But, if we're gonna put the blame on someone, we need to make sure we're blaming the right person. Or spreading it include all parties.
Now that said, if my son were pressuring a girl and I found out about it...his ass would get kicked. And there'd be a huge price to pay. Why? Because I am evil like that!
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And you're correct of course. As a parent, both you and I, we want what is best for our kids and hopefully we teach them right from wrong and good from bad and, as you know, parenting is spectacularly difficult at the best of times.
I'll easily admit that raising my daughter is quite possibly the hardest thing I have ever been involved in and she's still only 19 months old and getting cheekier by the day.
I think a lot of the reaction on here from fathers, me included, is reactionary to a perceived situation and entirely hypothetical. So until it happens, and I hope it never does, we don't know how we will react in this situation.
My daughter is very, very precious to me, as mini BC is to you no doubt and pens kids and all the other parents on here's kids but do you remember when you were young? The things you got up to in your teenage years? How would you react if/when you found out what they were up to?
We've all got to learn on our own and grow up sometime, it's what makes men and women of us and it's up to us, the parents, to make sure our kids are as well prepared as possible for the journey ahead of them.
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