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wand is one of the biggest gym rats out there. that is far from the problem. nog looked like an 80 year old man(before anyone says thats how he always fights stfu and watch some of his older fights. the man is a shell of his former self). the problem is these guys are on the verge of having very serious health problems if they get knocked around anymore. they just can no longer compete at a high level safely. like i said earlier these two guys are my idols in this sport and i've seen damn near every fight of there's and what we saw last night is completly different from how they fought years ago. it is seriously time for them to stop before they become completly punch drunk, or god forbid get killed in the ring. maybe im going to far but what i saw of these two looked like guys who were in serious trouble.