I must be getting old
 

School shopping....I take my son to Hibbett's to get him some shoes....since when were Nike shoes not good enough anymore? Ended up driving all over the place for "DC" shoes because Hibbett's didn't carry them...actually I shouldn't complain...they were cheaper...

Hahah... Wait til your daughter starts complimenting your clothes because they're "So retro." Effing shoot me now. Damn kids.

yeah, Nike stopped being cool about 5 years ago. skaters are the cool people nowadays, not athletes.

Yeah skater/surfer is the "in" look for all non-athletes

my kid plays basketball and baseball, and football next year (at least he wants to as of now)

Maybe athletes secretly want to be surfers/skaters now because it's cool??????

Wow... then i guess its spreading like an epidemic...

I haven't skated in years now, but I still snowboard. The surfer/skater look is in because it combines comfort of a sports jersey with the style of someone who is gay. It's a happy median.

Kids are so picky these days.

I have an 8 yr old nephew,who won't wear clothes,unless they are black,
and have skulls/skulls and crossbones on them.

I told my sister she better pray he doesn't turn into an emo(just kidding)

Now,he wants a mohawk.....

They like the look anyway - my son is athletic, but he loves the skater style shoes and stuff.

i've had the same pair of Doc's for about 10 years. my kid just stole them because they already look "broken in"...works out good for me. i get a new pair.

My younger brother who's 22 ALWAYs wore skater shoes growing up even though he wasn't. I always thought they made him look like a tool. I'm still a nike guy, but I also don't mind rocking three stripes and a shell toe baby!

All of a sudden I'm picturing you outside TQ with said shell toed adidas' on and a piece of cardboard so you can breakdance outside....no wonder you're not training

i would consider skaters to be athletes, so does nike.

I'm just saying...I wanted Nikes as a kid because of the MJ-Mars Blackman commercials...and Nike is EVERYWHERE today...almost every other commercial, but when my son said he wanted DCs I had no idea what the hell he was talking about, but the salesman at Hibbett's did, cause he said they didn't sell them...hence the start of this thread....AM I GETTING THAT FUCKING OLD?????

i wouldnt say its so much that youre getting old, i think its just the same marketing that got you hooked on nikes is being used again with skate shoes these days. skating is cool at the moment just like mike was back in the day so companies will capitalize on that. if you are in your 30s, dc wasnt around yet when you were still in high school and most likely you didnt skateboard back in the mid 90s when dc started to become a large company.

You can do what my dad did for me years ago. He said, "This is what I'm paying for. If you don't like it and want something else, make your own money and buy your own clothes."

I did the same for my son (just graduated) and daughter (going into 9th).

It's scary how many kids I saw in the High School I taught at wearing $300 shoes, but couldn't afford lunch. And not just one pair of shoes. NOOO, they had like 5 or 6 different pairs A YEAR!.

I won't even get started on the rest of their clothes. But, I don't know, you'd think with all the money they spend on clothes, they'd buy at least one COAT for Winter!

its sad to think people put fashion before necessities like that.

DC shoes are really popular with kids right now because of three things.

1. Danny Way (who is co-owner of DC) and his inventing the mega ramp and the "big air" comp in the x-games

2. Rob Dyrdek and his show "Rob & Big"

3. Ryan Sheckler and his show "Life of Ryan"

Skaters are finally at the point where they can make millions of dollars and now that they are driving Range Rovers and shit, other kids think they are cool.

NIKE can sucka dick!! They recently launched Nike6.0 shoes aimed squarely at the sk8 / BMX market but everyone I know boycotts NIKE because it is just a obvious attempt to cash in on us when they never gave a shit before.

I have always only worn shoes and clothes (except Levis' but they sponsor BMX anyways) from rider owned companies. That is, companies that are owned by professional skaters and BMXers.

Orchid shoes
Lotek Shoes
V-Club clothing

OK...that explains why I have Rob & Big recorded on my DVR....I watched part of one episode and didn't understand what the big deal was...but there was another brand he wanted if he couldn't get DCs...can't remember what they were...NOT the heeley shit....fuck...done bought too many pair of those...

and YES I make my son take the wheels out when going in public...I CAN'T STAND THAT SHIT!!!


*need to find a rant thread*

I love Rob & Big :p

That show is hilarious!

But yeah, Rob Dyrdek is sponsored by DC and almost always wears a DC shirt and hat in every episode.

yes, you are that fucking old. :D

must be...cause I landed a chick without either a tramp stamp or a mini...yep I'm old...

aw, it's cute that you believe that. we were in bed the other day and, after making me a sandwich and ironing my shirt, she told me she just feels sorry for you. it's actually really nice of her to stay...what with your genital warts and all. now go take out the trash and play with your kids.

i think its funny when people say nike never gave a shit before considering nike did a skateboard campaign back in the late 90s with bam margera before he became a popular figure in skating and before skating became as huge as it is now. nike also did savier shoes but those never took off either. nike is just like every other company, they have to aim into markets where they will make money to survive...if a company guns to be 'core' or whatever people like to call it, chances are their lively hood is limited to the amount of time that scene is considered cool.

outside of that, i was eating lunch with a few friends including chet childress and a couple people were bagging on him for riding for nike sb. he then proceeded to tell us how nike actually listens to its riders feedback on their product and how much nike spoils them with traveling expenses and salary. chet was at the time making more money with nike than he would have with any other skate company giving him a pro model shoe. from that point on, i was cool with nike being in skateboarding because they actually support and promote skateboarding rather than most companies who just try to bank off of it

so how much is the Nike skate shoe? Just wondering because I gave $40 for the DCs and would have paid about $60 for Nike "sneakers"...

you're lucky you got off at $40. i told my kid anything over $50, he pays the difference. so far he does.

depends on what shoe and where you get them. the shop i used to work for sells a nike zoom harbor for $55 but that mostly depends on what price a shop is deciding to sell the shoe at. nike also started the 6.0 collection to help make it easier for skaters to get a nike shoe without having to deal with all the shoe collectors who grab up on the nike sb line

Well the main thing is NIKE will make money and it goes to their huge corporation which supports other athletes.

Any rider owned companies DC, Etnies, Orchid, Lotek, DVS, Adio - THEY put all the money back into the sport.

If you buy NIKE your money goes to Nike and probably pays some millionaire basketball player or something.

And seriously, Nike has held 2 jams in the last year with no prize money! They are a multi billion dollar corporation. Other rider owned companies do way more than Nike does. Sure Nike sponsors athletes but do you think that anyone would ride for them if you only got shoe flow?? Fuck that!

The main issue is the taking of money from sk8/BMX and not putting it back into the sk8/BMX community.


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well, there really are 2 different qualities of shoes in most of the lines.

there is the basic ones for wearing and then there is the more rugged ones that are better for skating in those are usually around 70 or more.

i wore Arto Sari's for 4 years. Thats all i would ever buy but the discontinued them.

wait sorry i just read this part.

you do realize that ALL companies give pro riders travelling expenses and salaries right?

OK then...now explain why the laces don't need to be tied..(RunDMC style)...my son plays sports...and I buy shoes for that...but these BIG SHOES with the laces loose...I don't like it....

outside of orchid and lotek , all those companies invest money into other things that are outside of skateboarding which is what those companies originated on. while it is true that nike pays out to basketball players and other athletes, its also due to those sports bring in way more revenue than skateboarding does.

the fact that nike held 2 jams last year should be looked at as a positive, they are getting coverage for the respective sports. as for the wondering if people would ride nikes if just for flow, i think the answer is yes. its seems as if half the kids in arizona are getting flowed by nike. infact at my old shop, more kids are flowed by nike than all the other shoe companies combined. flowing product produces new up and comers in skateboarding because you are helping cut the expensive cost of skateboarding. i used rip any shoe to threads within a week of getting them and at $60+ a pair, thats a lot of money to expect a kid or his/her parents to come up with.

Al Bundy?....cause you're awful shoe sensitive:D

oh im quite familiar with it but as an example, a lot of other companies are cramming as many people as possible into a hotel room, nike is giving every rider their own room.

chalba was talking about how his checks from nike was more than other, more marketable skaters were making off of their pro-model shoes.

dont tell anyone :p

yes true about the other companies actually - Orchid and Lotek stay true but Etnies and Adio and the others are really huge companies but for the most part the money doesn't go outside of the realm of alternative sports (or Extreme sports but i hate that term).
DC made a huge skate plaza which i'm sure prolly cost at least $350,000.
Time will tell if NIKE will start putting real money into the sport. They prolly will.

About NIKE flow. What I meant was that nobody would ride for NIKE for flow IF they could ride for another company and get paid, so NIKE really has to pay. Sorry i didnt make that thought very clear.

Oh well thats pretty cool. If they treat people like that, which they should cuz they have so much money, then people will really want to ride for them.


I find that hard to believe unless your shoe doesn't sell very well. But i don't know so i'll give the benefit of the doubt.

dc also made that mountain lab thing for snowboaring which is probably the coolest thing ive ever seen.

i agree with you on the riding nike flow, if i was ever in the situation of getting the same benefits from one of the smaller and more skate-focused companies i would do the same and not ride for nike. never liked how the soles felt for gripping a board anyways.

NIKE is so fucking huge that they should put on a DEW TOUR or a comp with big money prizes like LG or Redbull.

Morgan Wade won 1st place at the LG contest last year and took home a check for $30,000.
If Nike held a comp they could give away so much money and it would be sure to be televised which would be great publicity too.

On another note about getting old Shasta. Does your son wear skinny jeans or baggy jeans? There are basically 2 camps right now. Skinny jeans and fitted shirts and kids who wear baggy jeans and x-large shirts. If your son wears skinny jeans he might start using a shoelaces as a belt. I refuse to do it but that's the latest trend.

Just thought you should know just in case he falls into the skinny jeans category. :D

Just hope he doesn't start asking to shop at the GAP to buy girl's jeans. That's only one of the worst trends ever.