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Striker 07-28-2008 07:45 PM

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So you're going to blame Republicans for all of our problems? How typical.

It's a combination of Republican and Democrat policies that are a direct result of the apathy of the citizenry.

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And Obama isn't going to be any goddamn different.

binary_jester 07-28-2008 07:59 PM

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I think you need to recheck that theory. All that happens if R v W gets repealed, it becomes a state decision, not federal...the way it should be.
...and not, I am not against abortions, I think it should be a woman's right, but it should be a state right also.

Kyle E. Coyote 07-28-2008 07:59 PM

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binary_jester 07-28-2008 08:04 PM

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Seriously, you can't tell the difference between either party.
Really the election is going to be the part of "How do I get elected next year and suck the life out of whatever I can get".

Striker 07-28-2008 08:13 PM

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McCain can't repeal it anyway. It takes someone challenging it before the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court then has to vote in favor of it being repealed.

Holy fuck, people are clueless.

Edit, and the clueless comment was not directed at you jester... just making sure.

dusio22 07-28-2008 08:34 PM

Roe vs. Wade would get overturned if McCain sticks another conservative on the bench.

The electoral college had nothing to do with the supreme court overrulling the florida supreme courts decision to keep counting votes.

Perhaps I did say something negative without adding facts along with it. Let's see. Getting into Iraq. Voting against veteran aid bills. lowering taxes for the wealthy and the corporations. Big oil.

As for abortion, it's not your body, tough shit.

I fully realize that it's both the republican and democrats fault for where this country is today. But I know that the past eight years has sped up the decline.

Republicans claim to be against big government. Yet if you want to be gay, get an abortion, or not practice religion in schools, they will ram their government down your throat.

All I'm saying is, don't be a hypocrite.

Obama may not be the best choice, but for me, I'd vote for damn near anyone over McCain.

Grampy McGrumpy scares his own party.

BlackCrypt 07-28-2008 08:47 PM

What has Obama ever done (other than work with some bums in Chicago) that makes him a person to lead our country?

Striker 07-28-2008 08:56 PM

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Where to start, oh where to start...

R vs W should be overturned simply for the reason that it should be a state matter and not a federal matter.

I don't even know what your point is with the electoral college thing.

Lowering taxes for the wealthy, big oil blah blah blah blah motherfucking blah holy fuck you people (liberals) are like one massive broken record. Say shit, and don't explain and think you've made some great point that no one can counter... If you want to have a discussion (or a debate), you must explain yourself.

It's not just her body either. Last time I checked, the male had to contribute for a baby to be conceived. That means he should have a say. But then again, every time I think about abortion, I remember that the majority of the people that have them are liberals, so it's probably a good thing they are legal.

The past of eight years of Bush, and the eight years of Clinton. Shit, sorry, forgot, it's just Bush... and KARL ROVE. Man, how could you forget KARL ROVE!

No one is stopping people from being gay, the only question is whether gay marriage should be legally recognized as marriage. I think not. Civil union with the same benefits, go for it! Just don't call it marriage. And how is anyone forced to practice any kind of religion in school? They can't make you pray, they can't make you read the Bible. So what the fuck are you talking about?

dusio22 07-28-2008 09:00 PM

"no one is stopping people from being gay, the only question is whether gay marriage should be legally recognized as marriage. I think not. Civil union with the same benefits, go for it! Just don't call it marriage. And how is anyone forced to practice any kind of religion in school? They can't make you pray, they can't make you read the Bible. So what the fuck are you talking about?"

I'm talking about having to look at the ten commandments in a school. If you're not christian, it can be a bit irritating. Or in a courthouse.

The only thing you said that is honest is "I think not"

Yeah, you think not. Not other people. I don't care if gays or cows get married, it doesn't affect me or you. It's just a fucking word.

Where to start? How about you have you slant, I have mine. Karl Rove is the devil and the only people who don't think so are those he hasn't fucked yet.

Why should states decide roe v wade. If it were up to the states, most civil rights wouldn't be available to minorities. The states had education fucked up well before "no child left educated" came along and made it worse. Ask any teacher. They teach to pass a test, not to educate. More brilliant republican government at work. Force it on them, don't give them any money to implement it.

I see so if you are liberal, you should not be born or should be killed. Nice. Can I tell you how many rich sorority girls take advantage of legal abortions? I know quite a few.

As for the taxes, what's to explain? A tiny percentage of the population of this country owns the majority of the wealth. Taxes on the middle class mean a hell of a lot more than taxes to a guy with $100 million dollars. He doesn't worry about his mortgage.

And corporations? Tell me why oil companies get tax breaks to drill for new oil? They are making record profits. Don't give me that bullshit they aren't, even they admit it.

Clinton wasn't perfect but I'd rather have a guy thinking with his dick rather than HIS bible. And I'm catholic, or was.

And you had a choice not to have a baby, it's called a condom.

I don't consider myself a liberal. I'm a citizen. Stop legislating my fucking life. I realize I need to pay taxes for roads and services. OK by me. I'm not paying for Enron motherfuckers to screw people over and hang out with Cheney and Bush.

You know what, call me a liberal, it's better than being closed minded.

Striker 07-28-2008 09:08 PM

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What the fuck school did you go to? I never heard shit from the teachers about that except for when I went to a private Christian school 3-5th grades.
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Killing dogs and cats for the hell of it doesn't affect me, doesn't mean it should be legal. In fact, that can applied to abortion too.
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So did she, it's called a birth control pill, or even a diaphragm for fucks sake. That argument doesn't work.


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