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Striker 07-27-2008 06:11 PM

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Excellent answer.

jizzay 07-27-2008 11:26 PM

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Thanks buddy, I enjoy political debates and I knew you would shred this freak to hell once you read his shit.

jizzay 07-27-2008 11:31 PM

Not to start anything, but at what point do you say to the Iraqi gov't, we have tried to maintain stability but in doing so we are costing American lives in the process and leave them to fend for themselves. Not to equate war with welfare, but if you give someone the means and opportunity to better themselves but they don't contribute is it wise to just keep giving and giving at a high cost. At what point do you cut them off and let them either succeed or fail on their own?

Striker 07-27-2008 11:45 PM

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IMO, we are getting pretty close to being able to letting them fend for themselves. The surge seems to have done wonders for making things a lot more stable over there. That being said, you still can't give any kind of public time line or date for a withdraw. Common sense says that they will just wait until that date and then all hell will break loose. You have to have the terrorists thinking that we are going to be there for the long haul and no matter what they do, we aren't leaving until the job is done and they are defeated at least to the point that the new government can fend for itself.

I would think that to some degree, we will have troops over there for a long time to come. Hell, we still have bases in Germany.

rankamateur 07-28-2008 03:44 AM

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I think if Obama wins, we'll be telling Iraq that very thing in late January. Unless he changes his mind on that too.

By the way, if you have time, dig up a recording or video of Obama talking without a teleprompter. It's a riot!

rankamateur 07-28-2008 03:52 AM

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Just when the fuck do you think Gulf War 1 happened? 1998?? You ARE a moron. By my guess, you are a little kid whose only concept of history is what some hippy junior high teacher TOLD you to think. Gulf War 1 was January 1991, and lasted less than a month.

rankamateur 07-28-2008 04:03 AM

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Here's the connection - 9/11 woke America up to the fact that militant Islamic extremists have been at war with us since 1979. Somehow, we never noticed (well, some of us) all those hijackings and hostages and the attack on the USS Cole and the first attack on the Twin Towers and the embassy bombings. It took a big one to wake us up, and we said to the Commander in Chief: "Go get them!" And that's why we're in SEVERAL countries, killing people who want to kill us.

And gee, why haven't we heard much about Osama lately? Could it be that he has become very unsuccessful at harassing us now? When's the last time Al Qaeda did anything directed at American citizens?

goonarms 07-28-2008 08:34 AM

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Oh could it be Osama is being very quiet becuase he has something good brewing and he is just waiting on it?

BleacherCreature420 07-28-2008 11:17 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyDvU...w.dlisted.com/

wow

jizzay 07-28-2008 04:19 PM

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Josh Brolin as W? Talk about bad casting. Another bad movie by Oliver Stone.


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