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binary_jester 07-26-2008 02:13 AM

I loved Ron Paul, but being a libertarian, that's no surprise. Unfortunately, I think he would have been completely ineffectual. Not because he couldn't lead, but because no one on congress would have supported him. Ron would have used his veto pen and used it often. Congress would have been able to agree on something, and that would have been overriding Ron's veto. I loved having him in the race (and Huckabee to some extent) because they were proof McCain is no conservative. Ron Paul will bee appreciated much later down the line. Look at it this way. Look how the press vilified Patrick Buchanan. They called him an isolationist and a xenophobe. Now what he was stating seems like common sense. So either Ron will be harbinger of future politics or we will give over to socialism, so lobotomies for all.

McLame is no conservative. He has flopped on Bush's tax cut (I was aginst them, now I am for them), completely wrong on immigration (permanent visas), lost his mind on global warming, endorses teaching "intelligent" design in science classes, and is endorsed by the NY Times. Plus he has inhibited free speech, which is the absolute worst of his grievances. He stated Alito is too conservative. His maverick image simply means he is willing to throw in with liberals.

Obama is just your typical politician, ironically parading himself as not-typical. He makes vague promises (vote for change, WTF is that? Vote for changing the time zones? change what? he could change things and make the a hell of a lot worse). He is making his move from extreme left (which is what got him out of the primary) to centrist. He has modified his stance on getting the troops out in 16 months (when the military has stated that if we set that deadline, we'd leave most of our equipment over there), flopped on the 2nd amendment, was all for public finance until he realized he can raise a lot more money than using a "flawed" system, was opposed to cracking down on illegal immigration, now says he would crack down, states he was going to repeal the Patriot Act and then voted to keep it, etc.

So basically we have 2 politicians where we have no clue what they stand for. Both willing to do and say anything to get into office.

So who am I going to vote for? Most likely the Libertian candidate because, in good conscience, I cannot vote for either of these candidates.

jizzay 07-26-2008 02:34 AM

I am definitely voting for Obama. This country needs change and McCain is not the answer. Given the fact that there is a large population of young voters eligible for this election age will be a very key factor in who wins. McCain comes across as the crotchety old man, in the same mold as Dole, and Obama is a junior senator who appears to not yet been corrupted by the political machine in this country. Sadly, being from the "south", alot of people will not vote for him due to his race. That being said, the smart thing for Obama to ensure no attempts at assassination I think he should choose Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton as a running mate. Who in their right minds would shot him knowing one of them would be President?

binary_jester 07-26-2008 02:40 AM

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What does he plan to "change"?

DAS 07-26-2008 08:37 AM

Awe Cool, a political discussion... Quick someone post a Poll about Religion, and then one about the right to bare arms. So the rest of the populace who doesn't get annoyed by political discussions, can be annoyed as well...:D

BigMac63 07-26-2008 08:43 AM

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tokerjoe 07-26-2008 09:44 AM

i'd like to agree with Jester that my man was Ron Paul, kind of knew his presidency was doomed from the start. unfortunately, i'm registered to vote in Massachusetts so my vote never matters (seriously has a democrat every not won our electoral votes).

states like mine just further illustrate why we need to ditch the electoral college and go with popular elections. theres no point in there being notorious red and blue states and then a handful of "swing states" ie penn, ohio etc get to determine the president for the rest of us.

gentlemen and ladies, lets start a revolution!

Geaux Saints 07-26-2008 11:21 AM

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Whoever is next in line under vice-president would take control of office, because I'm pretty sure if someone was crazy enough to assassinate Obama, they would not think twice about taking out Jesse or Al as well. Hell, might even shoot them first.

Kyle E. Coyote 07-26-2008 12:30 PM

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That'd be no sweat for me, I'd just have to copy and paste my signature into the message box. :D

jizzay 07-26-2008 12:44 PM

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The economy, the senseless war in Iraq, health care, anything else Bush fucked up the past 8 years.

Randal Graves 07-26-2008 12:53 PM

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I never would have thought Shasta was the smartest person in this forum. Voting is a waste of time, so at least have some fun if you're going to do it.


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