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Magnusrex · #31 08-20-2010, 07:37 PM

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good point, a 600 year catch up timeline. gotcha!

gimmebeer · #32 08-20-2010, 07:44 PM

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ha! 5char

TheSNakE · #33 08-20-2010, 07:47 PM

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eloquently put beer man

#34 08-21-2010, 06:47 AM

I am making this thread a sticky.

Before you post please read Post #1.

#35 08-21-2010, 07:52 AM

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Some good unbiased news sources:

politifact.com

Factcheck.org

mediamatters.org

TheRealNews.com

Whatever you do don't ever listen/watch FOX.

There is an amazing article at Fair.org chronicling FOX's unending bias.

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Last but not least FOX's admission in court that they distort the news.

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Also, this video is the most hilarious thing i saw last year. Bill O'Reilly claims FOX has never asserted that people could go to jail for not paying for mandatory health insurance which is followed up by a highlight reel of all the times the FOX news people have spouted that lie. Good stuff (if you dont watch the enitre thing at least make sure to watch the last 20 seconds... it'll make you lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQKn5vf95Rk

But i'm sure as rational members of society, you already know this about FOX.

Predator24 · #36 08-21-2010, 09:55 AM

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As a rational citizen of "The United States of AMERICA" I completely disagree with your news sources and references. I don't care what you read since it's good for a laugh calling them "Unbiased" but I am completely in favor of a Mosque being built on the EXACT ruins of the twin towers. Fuck it I'll help them build the motherfucker.

MrGoutHimself · #37 08-21-2010, 11:43 AM

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I typically consider the Inquisition and some of the other surrounding thrusts of the early Christian church to force people to their belief system to be the most violent acts that Christians pulled off. Since that started in 1478, 532 years ago, then I don't expect what we're seeing from Islam is much different. All "religions" go through these symptoms, even the quackish ones. You've got your Jonestown Suicide/Massacres, you've got your Branch Davidians, your Heavens Gates....

As far as isolationism not working anymore, I agree that we need to trade at a worldwide level, I believe in NATO and the good work we've done throughout Europe using it. But I also think that at some point our country needs to stop trying to police every other nation on the planet and focus some of those resources on caring for our own citizens and veterans. I'm not saying pull out military completely out of everywhere, but a reduction in forces abroad and spending on those undertakings would be good for us.

ThatHaole · #38 08-21-2010, 11:55 AM

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+1
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Robert Lee Yates, William Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Kanye - just a few Citizens of the United States that I sure as hell am not going to take any advice from, based upon their citizenship.

Predator24 · #39 08-21-2010, 02:53 PM

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What did the Branch Davidians do that was wrong?? (Please don't get me started on Waco or Ruby Ridge)

NATO is a huge waste of money on the level of the UN.

MrGoutHimself · #40 08-21-2010, 03:20 PM

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I'm not saying that David Koresh or the rest of his zombies were up to anything in there, but typically innocent people don't engage in firefights with law enforcement officers who come to serve warrants.

There is also this: "Reports from Joyce Sparks, an investigator from the Texas agency responsible for child protective services, stated she had found significant evidence that the allegations were true in her visits to the Mount Carmel site over a period of months. However she said the investigation was difficult as she wasn't permitted to speak with the children alone nor was she permitted to inspect all areas of the site. She noted that safety concerns over construction sites at Mount Carmel were either ignored or slowly corrected."

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I'm not trying to condemn any religion, all I'm saying is that every religion has its own quirks, every religion has its own group of people who attempt to use the religion to further their own ends. As far as I'm concerned, your freedom of religion ends where the encroachment on my own constitutional rights begins.