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Oh ok... I was trying to figure out if you were talking about Sinatra or me? I was confused.
Yeah, there are a million things that a REAL WORLD man should/shouldnt do like you said (should take care of responsibilities, family etc) but thats a whole other convo.
It's just the argument of what a guy should/shouldn't do based on whether or not he is a "real man" that seems to make no sense to me.... that's what i was trying to get at.